Who killed President Kennedy

[Pablo Fanque]

[Ozymandias]

Looks like we have 2 people that are damn fools. There is no way that Oswald could have done the shooting on his own.

[Leonidas]

The grassy knoll

[gdarb]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

Looks like we have 2 people that are damn fools. There is no way that Oswald could have done the shooting on his own.

don't believe everything Oliver Stone tries to tell you.....

[Spartan4ever]

Originally Posted by Sir William Wallace

Who killed President Kennedy

No, Who's on first! What's on second, Idontknow is on third.

[Ozymandias]

Originally Posted by gdarb

don't believe everything Oliver Stone tries to tell you.....

Just look at the facts. He had to shoot accurately through heavy coverage and get the shots off in less than 7 seconds. 1 shot is the kill shot, 1 shot hits the guy under the bridge, so you have the Magic Bullet Theory, which is crap. Oswald was never considered a decent rifleman in the Marines, making a job that only pros could pull off impossible for him to do.

[MSU addict]

The fashion industry.

[Spartan4ever]

Become a member of the 2038 club. In September 2038, the last sealed files of the Warren Commission will be opened. The wait 75 years before opening these documents, because by that time, all of the parties involved will already be dead, and any incriminating evidence/discoveries will not affect those who were in power/responsible at the time of the investigation.

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/higher_...tz_thesis.html

[AvgMSUJoe]

Lbj

[Servo]

Marilyn Monroe's ghost

[Pablo Fanque]

Those of you (3) that voted "other", who/what is your killer?

[Z.Cavaricci]

Anyone ever see Confessions of an Assasin ?

[Servo]

[gdarb]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

Just look at the facts. He had to shoot accurately through heavy coverage and get the shots off in less than 7 seconds. 1 shot is the kill shot, 1 shot hits the guy under the bridge, so you have the Magic Bullet Theory, which is crap. Oswald was never considered a decent rifleman in the Marines, making a job that only pros could pull off impossible for him to do.

Yes, look at the facts. The FBI was able to replicate the three shots in that amount of time. You didn't have to be a 'pro'. Oswald achieved sharpshooter status while in the marines. The "magic bullet" didn't have to change directions as Oliver Stone (and Jerry Seinfeld) said. Modern computer modeling have shown Kennedy and Connely lined up in a straight line leading back to the 6th floor. The "pristine" bullet is not "pristine".
Last year, on the 40th anniversary, there were several very good programs that debunked these conspiracy myths that continue to be believed. Conspiracy books are big business, and as long as there is money to be made, people will continue to sell the idea.
If you believe nothing else, believe this much: Oswald fired three shots from the book depository. One went through Kennedy and into Connely. One hit Kennedy in the head. That much happened. You can speculate on anything else you want, but that much did happen. Oswald wasn't drinking a coke in the cafeteria at the time of the assasination ...

Most of these conspiracy "facts" belong right next to the "facts" surrounding aliens crashing at Roswell and how NASA faked the moon landing....

[Spartan4ever]

Originally Posted by gdarb

Most of these conspiracy "facts" belong right next to the "facts" surrounding aliens crashing at Roswell and how NASA faked the moon landing....

We landed on the Moon? Man, I got to get cable.

[MasonDelhiGuy]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

Looks like we have 2 people that are damn fools. There is no way that Oswald could have done the shooting on his own.

Looks like you now have nine fools. Count me amongst them. I am not a Kennedy assassination fascination guy, but what I have seen and read and watched, I am very comfortable that he could and that he did.

One of the beauties of living in a free land is you HAVE to tolerate the opinions of others. It is a great country!

[Spartanic]

Elements of the CIA, the Mafia, and members of the cuban exile community were involved. If this sounds unlikely, consider that all 3 parties had a close relationship working together for years in the various assassination attempts on Castro.

In addition, all 3 parties had good motives for wanting JFK dead.

There were 3 shooters. It is possible that Oswald was one of the shooters, but the evidence is inconclusive on that point. He was definitely the Patsy.

LBJ was not one of the planners, but probably had advance knowledge.

Look at a schematic layout of Dealy Plaza and try to make a straight line that goes between JFK, Connally and the 6th floor "sniper's nest" in the Book Depository building.

In the 1970's , a congressional inquiry listened to only a fraction of the evidence surrounding the assassination and determined that there was more than one shooter.

[Hank Moody]

Dubya.


Signed,

Hollywood

[Pablo Fanque]

I should have made "Oswald as shooter acting in concert w/others" as a poll option. There are a lot of theories that have Oswald as the shooter or a shooter but acting as part of a larger conspiracy.

[Lochgelly]

gdarb is prolly right...but I just can't get over the Zapruder film, the lethal shot, and how Kennedy's body, head and brains "went back and to the left" while the shot came from the back and the right.

Kennedys movements cannot be reconciled with the lethal shot.

[gdarb]

Originally Posted by Lochgelly

Kennedys movements cannot be reconciled with the lethal shot.

Q. It is common knowledge that, as captured by Abraham Zapruder, President Kennedy's head and upper torso lurch energetically immediately following the explosion of his head. Could this movement have been caused by the directly transferred momentum of a bullet? That is, can a bullet "push" somebody like that?


A. No, and no. The movement of a body due to bullet momentum cannot be greater than the movement of the same body if it was holding the gun that fired the bullet. This is a result of elementary physics and is not disputed by anyone who understands physics. The major frustrating feature of the Kennedy assassination phenomenon is the willingness of people to pretend to talk authoritatively on subjects they know absolutely nothing about, especially things related to firearms. This body recoil is one favorite. . . .

Q. If the effects observed on the Zapruder film are not the result of a direct "push" by a bullet, what could account for JFK's movements?

A. In general, body movement in response to nervous system trauma is a result of contractions in body muscles. This is related to movements of your leg when a doctor raps you on the knee with his little mallet; your leg moves because a nerve induces a muscle contraction, not because it was driven into motion by the force of the tiny rap with the mallet. . . . In addition to this effect, simulations have shown that bullet strikes to the skull that result in blowing out a significant hole upon exit result in skull recoil towards the bullet entry direction. The dynamics of this are a little complicated, but are more related to the pressure inside the skull cavity created by the bullet passage than to effects directly related to the bullet movement.
The main aspect of the Kennedy assassination that would surprise most people is how uncontroversial the wound ballistics aspects are among the physicians in the country who are most experienced in gunshot trauma.
It is a sad truth that most autopsy reports are full of errors and inconsistencies which are obvious to any careful review; it shouldn't be like this, but it is. The problems with the Kennedy autopsy do not require a conspiracy to explain, they are more or less business as usual exposed to the glare of careful examination.

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100shot5.html

Hey, I love a good conspiracy. But you have to look at the facts, wherever they take you. I got sucked into the conspiracy theories, and believed them. But they aren't supported by the facts. It's funny how, 30 years ago if you said Oswald didn't do it, you were considered a nut. Now if you say Oswald did do it, some people call you a nut.
BTW- I was fascinated by the whole Roswell thing and you know what I found out? It was a high altitude ballon that crashed. Pretty boring huh?

[tTito]

It was Woody Harrelson's dad.

[WavSpartan]

Originally Posted by gdarb

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100shot5.html

Hey, I love a good conspiracy. But you have to look at the facts, wherever they take you. I got sucked into the conspiracy theories, and believed them. But they aren't supported by the facts. It's funny how, 30 years ago if you said Oswald didn't do it, you were considered a nut. Now if you say Oswald did do it, some people call you a nut.
BTW- I was fascinated by the whole Roswell thing and you know what I found out? It was a high altitude ballon that crashed. Pretty boring huh?

I have done a lot of research in this area. Your theory does not account for many things including British audio studies of the CB radio which concluded 4 shots, for every doctor present at Parkland seeing an exit wound in the back of the head, for multiple witnesses that day running up the grassy knoll to try and catch the person that they saw there, for photographic indications of people on the grassy knoll, and most importantly for the fact that the first shot was impossible because Oswald would have had to shoot through a tree.

People that believe in the Oswald theory, generally have their heart in the right place, but they have failed to do much research. The flaws of the Warren Commission are just obvious.

And for the record, I believe in a combination of the listed options above, with a special emphasis on foreign, transatlantic involvement that is not listed.

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Last year ABC News haad an hour long program addressing this issue. Using computer technology they showed conclusively that not only could Oswald do the evil deed, he, in fact did. I do not know if this special is available on video, but I recommend it.

Kennedy was assasinated by a single shooter located in the book depository building. Any other theories move from reason to fantasy.

Sorry Oliver Stone.

Maybe Michael Moore should make a documentary: Fahrenheit 11/63 - Bowling for Dallas from a Grassy Knoll.

[Dr. Robert]

The butler did it.